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dana, we know reid is on board, nancy pelosi is on board. mitch mcconnell, has he definitely signed off to this deal? >> yes. he actually was an early signer of the deal. because he, of course, was the point person on the republican side. i should say, i said yes pretty definitively. behind me, you see a gaggle of reporters, and he's probably going to be mad at me for doing this, but that's mitch mcconnell's spokes person talking to people about what's going on. hopefully i won't be proven wrong, but it's hard to believe i will. mitch mcconnell wient to the floor hours and hours ago saying as far as he was concerned, he and the president had a deal except forsequester, which we now know is resolved. it's hard to imagine he's not on board. the question is how many republicans are going to vote for this? that really does matter not so much in whether it's going to pass the senate, but more importantly, its fate in the house. we talked a lot about from early on when the talks were with the house speaker and the president. that a big hurdle alwa
dana, we know reid is on board, nancy pelosi is on board. mitch mcconnell, has he definitely signed off to this deal? >> yes. he actually was an early signer of the deal. because he, of course, was the point person on the republican side. i should say, i said yes pretty definitively. behind me, you see a gaggle of reporters, and he's probably going to be mad at me for doing this, but that's mitch mcconnell's spokes person talking to people about what's going on. hopefully i won't be...
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there goes nancy pelosi, and we are told now house speaker boehner may have already left, and, no, they are not talking to reporters. nancy is looking for her car to leave the white house, and we're not getting anybody talking to the reporters at this point, so maybe we'll get some -- and i'm told now the futures market in the after-hours pegs is extending the losses that we've been seeing in the last hour of trade. maybe we'll get eamon javers to get in front of the camera when we come back. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> congressional leaders have just left the white house about an hour and 20 minutes arriving for a meeting with the presiden
there goes nancy pelosi, and we are told now house speaker boehner may have already left, and, no, they are not talking to reporters. nancy is looking for her car to leave the white house, and we're not getting anybody talking to the reporters at this point, so maybe we'll get some -- and i'm told now the futures market in the after-hours pegs is extending the losses that we've been seeing in the last hour of trade. maybe we'll get eamon javers to get in front of the camera when we come back....
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nancy pelosi, chris, never has a problem getting the votes if she needs it. if anything else, it's just joe biden doing some housekeeping today. >> house republicans, though, have their own marker. marco rubio said he could not support the bill because he thinks the income tax hike on families making over $450,000 a year conversely he thinks will hurt small businesses. is it possible? what's the thought there, luke, about a conservative revolt, something that would mean amendments and maybe kicking this bill back to the senate? >> it is certainly possible. you have to remember, you can't put anything past the house republican conference. you look back at last year in december of 2011 there was a payroll tax cut extension. it passed with 89 votes, the same number away we saw passed early this morning. the house then killed it four days later. we've seen this movie before. not saying it could happen today, but it's a distinct possibilities. a lot of democrats don't like the fact that this bill they feel does not cut enough spending and extend unemployment as th
nancy pelosi, chris, never has a problem getting the votes if she needs it. if anything else, it's just joe biden doing some housekeeping today. >> house republicans, though, have their own marker. marco rubio said he could not support the bill because he thinks the income tax hike on families making over $450,000 a year conversely he thinks will hurt small businesses. is it possible? what's the thought there, luke, about a conservative revolt, something that would mean amendments and...
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we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to eventually. the question is -- >> maybe not. not with these guys. you never know. >> any prediction is perilous here. but it's always struck me, if it is going to be, it's going to be at the very last second or after we go over the cliff. >> jonathan, are we going to come out on the drive way and sing kumbaya? >> i doubt it given the video you just showed. that's not minority leader pelosi heading to the microphones in the driveway. it looks like she's on west executive drive trying to get the hell out of dodge. >> looking for her car. that's right. >> which could be a
we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to...
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>> i just heard nancy pelosi and hairy re day. agreed to sign off on this deal. the senate could vote on it tonight. as reported earlier, house republicans sent everyone home for the day. testimony, if congress accepts this deal, being put together tonight, congress could claw back up the cliff. >> just hours before midnight deadline, president obama gathered supporters to announce a deal was within site. >> our immediate priority is middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we can accomplish. >> the vice president and senate republican leader leading negotiations, but phone shall deal is expected to increase estate tax from 35ses today 40%. extend unemployment benefits, and bring back higher clinton era tax rates on households making more than $450,000 a year, that $450,000 fresh hold is a major concession. tom harkin threatened to pull support. >> the deal must be one that favors the middle class and he cautioned rinz against taking a spending cuts only approach. >> if they think that is going to be the formula they've got anot
>> i just heard nancy pelosi and hairy re day. agreed to sign off on this deal. the senate could vote on it tonight. as reported earlier, house republicans sent everyone home for the day. testimony, if congress accepts this deal, being put together tonight, congress could claw back up the cliff. >> just hours before midnight deadline, president obama gathered supporters to announce a deal was within site. >> our immediate priority is middle class families starting tomorrow. i...
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and it's up to the republicans or enough republicans to vote that's where nancy pelosi said bipartisan enough republicans to breakaway from their caucus and vote with democrats so they get to the magic number of 218 without amendments so it won't go back to the senate. republicans are the party of no raising taxes on anybody. and for the first time in 20 years there will be republicans for this package to succeed will have to vote to increase taxes. >> what about all the drama leading up to this and the doom's day language of going over the fiscal cliff. technically we've gone over the cliff. doesn't feel any different. >> doesn't feel different. they did a clever thing which i haven't thought of is today there is no stock market. there's a holiday. remember for the package that in the days of the bush administration, the market went down over 700 points and all of a sudden they found religion and they passed something. there is no market today. so we don't have the injury or pain but tomorrow there will be and believe me, if there is no deal and it doesn't vote favorably in the house
and it's up to the republicans or enough republicans to vote that's where nancy pelosi said bipartisan enough republicans to breakaway from their caucus and vote with democrats so they get to the magic number of 218 without amendments so it won't go back to the senate. republicans are the party of no raising taxes on anybody. and for the first time in 20 years there will be republicans for this package to succeed will have to vote to increase taxes. >> what about all the drama leading up...
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again, we'll let you know nancy pelosi and john boehner have left the meeting from the white house. senate leaders are still inside and we'll monday store the white house. we'll keep an eye on things and let you know. >>> in the meantime, a massive container crisis averted. the powerful dock workers union agreeing to a temporary deal with shippers today. that means east and gulf coast ports say hope through the weekend but the fight is far from over. phil keating has the latest from miami. phil? >> this just goes to show that two sides can in fact come to negotiated deal. it's great news for millions of american workers in the u.s. consumer supply chain as well as untold numbers of american consumers because all of the prices that they depend on might have gone up. bottom line, no strike on sunday. both sides remain mum so we don't know the details of this, temporary deal just yet. the sticking point had been container royalties paid to the longshoremen. the heavier the container, the more they got paid. owners wanted it capped alt last year's level, longshoremen did not. the contai
again, we'll let you know nancy pelosi and john boehner have left the meeting from the white house. senate leaders are still inside and we'll monday store the white house. we'll keep an eye on things and let you know. >>> in the meantime, a massive container crisis averted. the powerful dock workers union agreeing to a temporary deal with shippers today. that means east and gulf coast ports say hope through the weekend but the fight is far from over. phil keating has the latest from...
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and, look, he even pals around with nancy pelosi. didn't we just fire her? >> didn't you see those loving looks? >> you know, real quick on that. the interesting thing, if i were to pivot off of that caption of him and nancy together because that's what the people are looking for. that partnership working, getting things done. >> but they were talking about global warming. >> the other thing about that ad, that was symbolic of the entire mitt romney campaign strategy in the primaries. which was a take-no-prisoners attack policy. it just showed that mitt romney had tons of money and some very clever consultants who could carve up anybody in his path. that left him with a lot of making up to do once he secured the nomination. the way he got the nomination is typified by that ad showed weakness in this camp. >> let's go back to the strategy, which it was. somebody is going to be the republican nominee and that person is going to be obama. therefore, all you have to be is there. >> and as he just noted and as neil sodacca made famous, making up is hard to do. th
and, look, he even pals around with nancy pelosi. didn't we just fire her? >> didn't you see those loving looks? >> you know, real quick on that. the interesting thing, if i were to pivot off of that caption of him and nancy together because that's what the people are looking for. that partnership working, getting things done. >> but they were talking about global warming. >> the other thing about that ad, that was symbolic of the entire mitt romney campaign strategy in...
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pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of the party or does he want taxes to go up and blame the republican. >> harris: first time since 1970 congress is working between christmas and new years. how do you negotiate with someone who is determined basically to see is fail and see us go over into extreme high taxes? >> we don't and one of the most insightful things i've read in the the last couple of weeks, the dialog between mr. boehner and the president off the election and mr. boehner put 800 billion of revenues on the table and talking about negotiations and the president says i get that for free, i'm not giving you anything for 800 billion dollars. and washington is a rumor mill, as you can probably mante imagine, and we've heard that the change cpi would be off the table, an indication of a smaller deal, not
pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of the party or does he want taxes to go up and blame the republican. >> harris: first time since 1970 congress is working between christmas and new years. how do you negotiate...
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speaker, nancy pelosi, mrs. bush, harry reid, leader mcconnell, secretary of state hillary clinton and my colleagues in government this is a special day to honor a special person in a special place. for many years i have followed tragedies and victories of this uncommonly courageous and persistent woman. in 1988 she quickly rose to be the voice of democracy in burma creating the lead for democracy, elections followed in 1990 when her party won 80% but that joy turned to tragedy and the the military junta and aung san suu kyi spent 3 decades under house arrest unable to visit her dying husband. in 1996 i recall senator bill cohen approaching with senator mccain to sponsor a burma sanction bill, sanctions were put in place in 1997 and only loosened in july of this year. senator mcconnell became one of aung san suu kyi's chief advocates and we continue to work on behalf of the people of burma. in 2003 following an assassination attempt senator mcconnell and i worked to pass an important man the remains in place tod
speaker, nancy pelosi, mrs. bush, harry reid, leader mcconnell, secretary of state hillary clinton and my colleagues in government this is a special day to honor a special person in a special place. for many years i have followed tragedies and victories of this uncommonly courageous and persistent woman. in 1988 she quickly rose to be the voice of democracy in burma creating the lead for democracy, elections followed in 1990 when her party won 80% but that joy turned to tragedy and the the...
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has there been any official word from anybody other than nancy pelosi? >> we got no official word on this. a number of house republicans who are upset with the way things have been going so we are not quite sure who's a republican member was who said that, but you have got to kind of look at leadership here or there. they will not bring a bill to the floor if they do no did not believe they have the votes to do this thing. adam: just for brevity, we want to show you the shot from times square. square. million people celebrating the new year. everyone of these people can expect a tax increase because without both chambers passing any kind of legislation, you make $50,000 per year as of 12:01 january 1 you will pay $1200 more in taxes. $150,000 income will pay 5600 in taxes. if you're married to, say numbers, 50,000 income, you'll pay $2000 more in income taxes. you're going to pay $6600 in taxes. rich, do people on the hill have any kind of sense, i understand they believe the concert of the tax increases hitting average americans giving us less money in
has there been any official word from anybody other than nancy pelosi? >> we got no official word on this. a number of house republicans who are upset with the way things have been going so we are not quite sure who's a republican member was who said that, but you have got to kind of look at leadership here or there. they will not bring a bill to the floor if they do no did not believe they have the votes to do this thing. adam: just for brevity, we want to show you the shot from times...
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we saw that in the senate as leader nancy pelosi, that means looking at an agreement and deciding whether unbalanced, helps move the country forward. and we're hopeful that republicans on the house will do as democrats and republicans did on the senate, and wailed equities deciding at the end of the day that everybody gets 100% of what they want. democracy means a willingness to come together for the good of the country. and that is what compromise is all about, especially in an era of divided government. our members are taking a look at the bill and we would ask our republican colleagues to bear in mind the good of the country as they also weigh all the equities. with that, i will turn it over to the squished vice-chairman of our caucus. >> i will very quickly, we all appreciate the vice president coming to the caucus today in a very straightforward, very thorough way explaining the process of the negotiation and why we are where we are at today. i do think the time for discussion and talk is coming to an end, it will be time for us to vote soon. for all this would have been for naught.
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isn't it true that president obama and nancy pelosi have expressed their interest in some kind of cpi, changed cpi, consumer price index in the past? other democrats have as well. so i'm getting the sentence that harry reid and the democrats don't want a deal. they want to go off the cliff. >> well, and that's certainly one opinion that's out there, andrea. the cpi aspect, democrats said, you know, we were willing to do that if you were talking about a huge 4 trillion dollar teal deal where we're going to cut a lot of different things, but as part after smaller deal they're trying to iron out over the course this have weekend, they said that that was a poison pill. so bottom line, they were not happy with this at the last minute. they made it well-known to everybody today to certainly stop it from happening so then we heard from a lot of republicans saying, fine, if it's a deal breaker, we're not going to do it and certainly the republicans would like some other sweeteners that would be appealing to them in the final deal. >> and do people in washington, to they realize how angry a lo
isn't it true that president obama and nancy pelosi have expressed their interest in some kind of cpi, changed cpi, consumer price index in the past? other democrats have as well. so i'm getting the sentence that harry reid and the democrats don't want a deal. they want to go off the cliff. >> well, and that's certainly one opinion that's out there, andrea. the cpi aspect, democrats said, you know, we were willing to do that if you were talking about a huge 4 trillion dollar teal deal...
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he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making $250,000 or more. this of course raises taxes on people making $400,000 or more, if you're single, $450,000 for a couple. so folks on the left saying this is not good enough. but the white house, mitch mcconnell, vice president joe biden believes it is a good deal because it represents compromise on all sides. i also spoke to one of my democratic sources who said look, if you look at the way the sequester has worked out, yes, it has only staved off for two months. however, they are off setting the cuts both through revenue as well as spending cuts. the reason democrats believe it i
he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making...
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or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second. alley vels i velshi is with us. >> speaker, sorry to bother you while you're on vacation. listen, you called this an artificial creation of washington. you have actually suggested the many things that make up the fiscal cliff be divided up and tackles separately. i want you to listen to what president obama said earlier today and get your comment on it. let's listen to this. >> we're going to solve this problem instead in several steps. >> speaker gingrich, do you think this is the way to do it? we're at an impasse. are we going to do that? >> we're going to solve it in several steps. why aren't people trying to solve it a few hours before midnight on new year's eve? everybody knows you can retroactively -- the president could instruct the treasury tomorrow morning to hold all withholding rates at the current amount on the presumption that they have reroactively to january 1st fixed the
or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second. alley vels i velshi is with us. >> speaker, sorry to bother you while you're on vacation. listen, you called this an artificial creation of washington. you have actually suggested the many things that make up the fiscal cliff be divided up and tackles separately. i want you to listen to what president obama said...
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and with that, will the me turn to our leader, nancy pelosi. >> thank you very much, chairman. last night the senate -- i guess it was early this morning, the united states senate voted in an uncharacteristically strong bipartisan way, 89 votes in favor of the compromise legislation. this is -- that was historic. that legislation was sent over to the house. up until now our speaker has said when the senate acts, we will have a vote in the house. that is what he said. that is what we expect. that is what the american people deserve. so we look forward now, as we go forward in this day, to see what timing will be for a straight up or down vote on what passed 89-8 last night in the united states senate. today we had the privilege, as our chairman said, of hearing from the vice president. he talked about what's in the legislation and what lies ahead and difficult negotiations as we go forward. we had a frank, as you said, mr. chairman, frank discussion in that regard. right now other members after thoughtful deliberations and review are continuing to review the legislation, weighin
and with that, will the me turn to our leader, nancy pelosi. >> thank you very much, chairman. last night the senate -- i guess it was early this morning, the united states senate voted in an uncharacteristically strong bipartisan way, 89 votes in favor of the compromise legislation. this is -- that was historic. that legislation was sent over to the house. up until now our speaker has said when the senate acts, we will have a vote in the house. that is what he said. that is what we...
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harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he does a really good job blaming the republicans. he was able to frame the debate about taxes against the rich. not on his reckless spending. as a politician, he is pretty -- he is pretty amazing. in terms of governing, he is horrible. this is not good long-term for this country. >> well, look, the president was very clear in two campaigns now about raising taxes on the top 2%. he was clear. and he and romney had that thing -- had that out. and he won on that platform, sean. i mean he fair and square he won on it. and he is going to make -- >> sean: so if the republicans. >> 2.5 in spending cuts. right now it is one-to-one or less. he didn't keep his promise on that he, joe trippi and you know it. >> 2.5 to one. >> there was a trillion dollars in cuts already that he agr
harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he does a really good job blaming the republicans. he was able to frame the debate about taxes against the rich. not on his reckless spending. as a...
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that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership. he didn't bring it to the floor. he decided not to, but he could have if they had had even 30 democrats willing to say i'll do what nancy pelosi said we should do and that plan brk would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels gree greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now?
that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership....
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nancy pelosi had her democratic grip. she won't get unanimous support, will she? >> that's to be seen. it's very possible there will be a number of democrats who are not happy with this and there may be some who do not vote for it on the left. that's entirely possible. but nancy pelosi is on a phone call with president obama and harry reid and she signed off on this, so she has a pretty good sense of where her caucus is, will be getting a lot of democratic support. when you look at how much democratic support this got in the senate, that's an indication it would get a lot in the house. the thing is, speaker boehner gets to determine if this bill -- i think the fact is, if you put this bill on the house floor, it will go through very easily. it's up to him whether he wants to put it on the floor or change it to get more republican support. >> brianna keilar, a big day ahead of us. thank you very much. >> let's go to capitol hill, jonathan allen, a senior correspondent for politico. happy new year. i want to pick up where brianna left off. john boehner has a choice
nancy pelosi had her democratic grip. she won't get unanimous support, will she? >> that's to be seen. it's very possible there will be a number of democrats who are not happy with this and there may be some who do not vote for it on the left. that's entirely possible. but nancy pelosi is on a phone call with president obama and harry reid and she signed off on this, so she has a pretty good sense of where her caucus is, will be getting a lot of democratic support. when you look at how...
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and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing a critical role in these negotiations, really the entire time. but especially since saturday when leader mcconnell reached out to him and asked him to get more engaged, which he did. and that is really when we saw this ball move forward. and now it appears inching closer by the hour to the end game. so, again, president obama reaching out to key leaders on the hill, making sure that they agree with this deal. and it appears at this hour that they do. and vice president biden now going to sell to it the caucus. milissa? >> all right, kristen welker, stand by for us, if you please. let's go to nbc
and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing...
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and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what stev
and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but...
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pelosi said we should do. and that plan "b" would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now? >> i think the extremes on both sides are a big part of the problem right now. and i've got a lot of respect for the men and women who are representing voters in their district who are telling them this. but we have to look at a broader reason why we're having members of congress coming from the perimeters. we can talk about gerrymandering of districts and the whole political process that has brought us to this place. those are the type of reforms long term that will get the congress working correctly again. >> it's a great and important point. thank you fo
pelosi said we should do. and that plan "b" would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now? >> i think the...
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so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room only, three-hour long caucus meeting, which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on, and how it was that he and the president, working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses, were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. quite honestly, so frank in his conversation with us in explaining as much as he could about what has transpired over the last several weeks. we now are waiting to hear from our republican colleagues, whether or not they want to do what the senate did, in a very bipartisan fashion. and give the american people an opportunity to have a vote. there are people throughout this country who might look at this deal and love it, some might hate it, some may not understand it. but we firmly believe that eve
so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room only, three-hour long caucus meeting, which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on, and how it was that he and the president, working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses, were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to...
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what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think a vote can happen tonight. but tonight might not be defined by the final hour of 2012, but instead whatever time in the wee hours that document can get ready and get to the senate floor. so many people who work in the capitol who are not directly involved, from those who operate the trains that get from building to building to staffers on the senate floor to keep things moving to security, so many people working waiting for this to be resolved. political arguments and disappointments within the democratic side as we expect there to be among republicans as well. no deal gets everything people want. there are come radio mizes for people. and this is a
what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think a vote can happen tonight. but tonight might not be...
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president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it
president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m.,...
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i think if you get a deal, ali, you're probably going to get a deal where nancy pelosi and the house is going to have to produce a hundred or so votes from her caucus because you probably got at least 50 house republicans who just don't want to vote for any tax increase. you could possible that kind of deal together and if there's any chance of this getting done, it will be that kind of deal where you get 70 votes in the senate, democrats and republicans alike, and then you get maybe 100 republicans and a few more democrats than that that put it together in the house. but here is the point. we got these big fiscal problems, and this is -- ali, we're going to be talking about this for a year no matter what happens with the short-term deal because we still have the debt ceiling, we have a budget deal on the spending. we've got a big financial crisis on our hands, and this is, unfortunately, just act one. >> the sad part is we don't have to have anything that looks like a financial crisis. we could actually have a good economy. >> let me say one thing -- >> that's the problem. >> let me
i think if you get a deal, ali, you're probably going to get a deal where nancy pelosi and the house is going to have to produce a hundred or so votes from her caucus because you probably got at least 50 house republicans who just don't want to vote for any tax increase. you could possible that kind of deal together and if there's any chance of this getting done, it will be that kind of deal where you get 70 votes in the senate, democrats and republicans alike, and then you get maybe 100...
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host: do you think nancy pelosi can deliver the votes? guest: we know the republicans will lose some number of votes. marco rubio voted against it. that is a sign of unrest. i have talked to some staffers in the progressive caucus. host: we have a tweet from the head of the afl-cio. host: that from richard trumka ahead of last night's vote, illustrating some distress among the progressive groups. guest: obama has not address the debt ceiling. this was another thing he was going to do. it.not when --he didn't win you have done the revenue and change the estate tax. that is done. you are going into the negotiations without many avenues. there will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. sherrod brown said they were going with tit. whitehouse said the same thing earlier. obama said they want an end to the high jinks. host: what is your take on president obama's role in negotiating so far? guest: i think he has a strong impulse to reach a deal. his priorities to reaching a deal is surpassing his desire to stand up for progressive principles. to pr
host: do you think nancy pelosi can deliver the votes? guest: we know the republicans will lose some number of votes. marco rubio voted against it. that is a sign of unrest. i have talked to some staffers in the progressive caucus. host: we have a tweet from the head of the afl-cio. host: that from richard trumka ahead of last night's vote, illustrating some distress among the progressive groups. guest: obama has not address the debt ceiling. this was another thing he was going to do. it.not...
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nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. the oce has done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possibly congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the twauld house ethics committee for further review meaning in those 37 cases the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and federal laws were likely violated. so why does congress want to kill it? actually that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important that there be some way for the public or someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. some of the things that oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> is there anything oce has done specifically that might have rubbed the congress the wrong way to the point where they wouldn't want to get it g
nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. the oce has done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possibly congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the twauld house ethics committee for further review meaning in those 37 cases the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and federal laws were likely violated. so why does congress want to kill it? actually that's hard to say. folks like these who have in...
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nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a spitballle just why do republican governors say we're not going to do this. let the fed do this. they said we don't like big government. they should control it. to me this is just like we don't likebe you guys. >> andrea: they can opt out if they don't want to opt out. to me, we have to throw spitballs. a lot of promises were made. taxes wouldn't go up. premiums wouldn't go up. keep your doctor. all of those things not true. i think we will be talking about this story and this decision for years and decades come. just i agree. >> kimberly: this show next year at this time. >> andrea: count it. >> juan: get out of the hot tub before i shrivel. >> greg: hope and bo on "days of our lives" and on and off again. it spent a lot of time thinking about it. to me, the big story that changed the election was mitt dropping the ball in the third debate. it was about foreign p
nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a spitballle just why do republican governors say we're not going to do this. let the fed do this. they said we don't like big government. they should control it. to me this is just like we don't likebe you guys. >> andrea: they can opt out if they don't want to opt out. to me, we have to throw spitballs. a lot of promises were...
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nancy pelosi when the white house asked her to get votes she is very good at it. she got votes for the budget control act, for health care. there should be no reason she shouldn't be able to get the votes today. with vice president biden coming to capitol hill it rests the nerves of any anxious democrats who don't like the deal because they don't like the $400,000 threshold and would prefer 250 and also feel the president was losing some negotiating leverage. biden being here, pelosi onboard it should be okay on the house democratic side. >> you are often privy to juicy little nuggets of behind-the-scenes information. do you have any thoughts on how vice president biden became so key to all of this? >> well, i think there is a basic trust factor that mitch mcconnell has with joe biden. they served together for over 20 years. they know each other. from a lot of conversations i had especially with the older bulls i sort of call them, they say joe biden is a guy you can do business with. that the president doesn't understand how to negotiate room to room, you know, p
nancy pelosi when the white house asked her to get votes she is very good at it. she got votes for the budget control act, for health care. there should be no reason she shouldn't be able to get the votes today. with vice president biden coming to capitol hill it rests the nerves of any anxious democrats who don't like the deal because they don't like the $400,000 threshold and would prefer 250 and also feel the president was losing some negotiating leverage. biden being here, pelosi onboard it...
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pelosi said they would consider the plan, although nancy pelosi did not go as far as to endorse it. what can we expect in terms of the house as far as how we can receive this? >> i've got to tell you, the veteran congressional watcher, i am fascinated to see what the house is going to do. here's the argument republican leaders made in the senate and are likely to make in the house tomorrow. yes, this is a horrible bill for us. we're asking many of you to vote against fundamental, a very basic tenant of your political belief, your philosophy, and that is never to vote, to raise taxes in any way, shape or form although technically, we should -- >> i just want to cut you off to report the breaking news that the senate has now approved this budget deal. so, based on that new information that we have, what happens now? explain to us where this goes? >> sure, it goes to the house of representatives. this does not take effect, obviously, until both the senate and house have voted on identical pieces of legislation. so the question is will the house take up this identical piece of legislati
pelosi said they would consider the plan, although nancy pelosi did not go as far as to endorse it. what can we expect in terms of the house as far as how we can receive this? >> i've got to tell you, the veteran congressional watcher, i am fascinated to see what the house is going to do. here's the argument republican leaders made in the senate and are likely to make in the house tomorrow. yes, this is a horrible bill for us. we're asking many of you to vote against fundamental, a very...
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nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a spitballle just why do republican governors say we're not going to do this. let the fed do this. they said we don't like big government. they should control it. to me this is just like we don't likebe you guys. >> andrea: they can opt out if they don't want to opt out. to me, we have to throw spitballs. a lot of promises were made. taxes wouldn't go up. premiums wouldn't go up. keep your doctor. all of those things not true. i think we will be talking about this story and this decision for years and decades come. just i agree. >> kimberly: this show next year at this time. >> andrea: count it. >> juan: get out of the hot tub before i shrivel. >> greg: hope and bo on "days of our lives" and on and off again. it spent a lot of time thinking about it. to me, the big story that changed the election was mitt dropping the ball in the third debate. it was about foreign p
nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a spitballle just why do republican governors say we're not going to do this. let the fed do this. they said we don't like big government. they should control it. to me this is just like we don't likebe you guys. >> andrea: they can opt out if they don't want to opt out. to me, we have to throw spitballs. a lot of promises were...
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before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democratic senate plan that extends tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. >> that's the only option that is viable escape route. >> reporter: but republican leaders say it's up to democrats who control the senate and white house to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy g
before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a...
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nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the blame. i have another question to ask. obama asked for complete congressional powers about being able to pull up and give any amount of money that he wanted, taking those powers away from the house. i think that is completely ludicrous. as far as the last caller asking out the democrats and republicans, that me see, if the democrats put a bill together and the republicans don't vote for it, they are mad at it, but if the republicans put a bill and let's say cave to the democrats, there is no bipartisan. i have never seen the democrats actually cave and take care of the fiscal cliff in the amount of debt that we have is completely crazy to me. >>
nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the blame. i have another question to ask. obama asked for complete congressional powers...
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speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live pictures. maybe somebody is going to get out of that car, and we'll see if any of the other leaders will be heading to the white house. this is speaker boehner right now heading into the white house. we'll keep you updated as this hour progresses here. >> indeed, meantime, more red arrows here on wall street as investors are awaiting for any signs of progress from the white house meeting which is about to get under way. right now we're sitting smack on 13,000. we've clawed back from being below that earlier on today. the nasdaq has also moved to the downside by half a percent as we speak. the s&p 500, as we speak, folks, is now down for the fifth straight day. i think it's down about 1.3% over the course of this week. so far let's see what happens over the last crucial hour of this trading day. >> so the clock is ticking. all eyes are on the white house. we've got i'm an javers there in washington as we wait for the white puff of smoke to come out of the white house, eamon. >> reporter: kind o
speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live pictures. maybe somebody is going to get out of that car, and we'll see if any of the other leaders will be heading to the white house. this is speaker boehner right now heading into the white house. we'll keep you updated as this hour progresses here. >> indeed, meantime, more red arrows here on wall street as investors are awaiting for any signs of progress from the white house meeting...
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harry reid, as well as nancy pelosi on board with the president, so the key question tonight is the democrats who talk about things in the senate, if we hear anything from the speakers about the deal that is now emerging in the senate. reporter: we have yet to hear from the speaker's office. but one of the final hangups is getting all the democrats on board with us. mitch mcconnell knows where speaker john boehner is on this issue. they remained in contact throughout these negotiations birdseed can imagine that speaker boehner will come out as possibly as early as tonight with a statement of support. he has yet to get any information on. adam: apparently a spokesperson for the speaker saying that this is all joe biden and mitch mcconnell. no context as whether that's a compliment or insult, but potentially the deal which you have been expressing all day long. you are the one who will wrote just before 9:00 p.m. that a gop aide said that this was all done. just to wrap up with you before before we sign off one more time, no word yet from the vice president, but reporters are waiting for some k
harry reid, as well as nancy pelosi on board with the president, so the key question tonight is the democrats who talk about things in the senate, if we hear anything from the speakers about the deal that is now emerging in the senate. reporter: we have yet to hear from the speaker's office. but one of the final hangups is getting all the democrats on board with us. mitch mcconnell knows where speaker john boehner is on this issue. they remained in contact throughout these negotiations birdseed...
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but it's the house leadership, nancy pelosi will have to sell liberal democrats on the idea. but eventually having to take place and then of course john boehner would have to sell house republicans on the fact that there may not be extension of cuts and they are going to be tax increases. >> exactly. and if you think of the alternative here, if liberal democrats don't like where the threshold is, they sit on their hands and get what they want and more and more. and you have a tax increase basically up and down the income spectrum. on the other the other side of the house republicans were saying, if we don't get enough spending cuts, and just let the sequester head. it is set to hit over the next decade beginning in just a few hours from now. get your spending cuts by doing nothing. your tax increases by doing nothing. so there's a little bit of something for everyone here. gerri: as we start to wrap up, did the republicans in giving to the tax increases, did they give enough? or are the democrats who didn't want increases on anybody, they one of the line at 250,000. do they p
but it's the house leadership, nancy pelosi will have to sell liberal democrats on the idea. but eventually having to take place and then of course john boehner would have to sell house republicans on the fact that there may not be extension of cuts and they are going to be tax increases. >> exactly. and if you think of the alternative here, if liberal democrats don't like where the threshold is, they sit on their hands and get what they want and more and more. and you have a tax increase...
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at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's
at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick...
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pelosi, believed there are sufficient house democratic votes with a few republican votes to get this deal done. the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice president joe biden or is the president himself getting involved in making calls? >> the president is not making calls white house officials tell me-- for a practical reason. he doesn't have good relationship with house republicans and the white house decided it would do more harm than good. the vice president has an excellent relationship with the house democrats and the white house is basically letting house republicans work this out for themselves and they hope they will sometime later this evening. >> mason: we hope so, too, major garrett at the white house, thanks, major. the new year brought in new law
pelosi, believed there are sufficient house democratic votes with a few republican votes to get this deal done. the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice...
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vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house speaker john boehner is sa
vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the...
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. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas. >> joining us to talk big picture and the president's second term cabinet, nbc editor mark murray was the december employee of the month. congratulations. >> excuse me. you heard from senator sanders saying the lack of urgency hasn't been a problem, but if you look at it for all intents and purposes, boehner removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with president obama? w
. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas....
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pelosi. between the both of you, we had bipartisan working together. thank you very much. i am very proud to be here. we are here today to recognize a legend. a legend, a giant amongst golfers throughout the world. arnold palmer's golf record is one history will ever remember, and all of us can go back and look. he has set an example for many individuals who aspire to become doctors or professional golfers, because it was not just about winning the golf tournament. it was also about giving back to our communities. and, arnold, not only is applauded come up at caring individual for is family. he set an example for many individuals who want to get into the game of golf, who want to be role models. he is my champion. he is my role model. not just because he won the u.s. amateur in 1954 and not just because he won a total of 92 professional events, including four wins at the masters, two wins at the british open, one at the u.s. open. not only because he played in six ryder cups and help the unit
pelosi. between the both of you, we had bipartisan working together. thank you very much. i am very proud to be here. we are here today to recognize a legend. a legend, a giant amongst golfers throughout the world. arnold palmer's golf record is one history will ever remember, and all of us can go back and look. he has set an example for many individuals who aspire to become doctors or professional golfers, because it was not just about winning the golf tournament. it was also about giving back...
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host: you do not nancy pelosi can democrat enough votes? >> we know republicans will lose some number. you have seen in the senate been betting against it. democrats may not be able to lose that much to get it passed. i have spoke to some that are looking for a reason not to vote for this. we cannot set the stage for further destabilization hostage- taking from ours in the form of another debt ceiling crisis. but he was doing that ahead of last night's vote. this was another thing he was going to do. he didn't win it. you have done the revenue and change the estate tax. that is done. you are going into the negotiations without many avenues. there will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. sherrod brown said they were going with it. whitehouse said the same thing earlier. obama said they want an end to the high jinks. host: what is your take on president obama's role in negotiating so far? guest: i think he has a strong impulse to reach a deal. his priorities to reaching a deal is surpassing his desire to stand up for progressive principles. to
host: you do not nancy pelosi can democrat enough votes? >> we know republicans will lose some number. you have seen in the senate been betting against it. democrats may not be able to lose that much to get it passed. i have spoke to some that are looking for a reason not to vote for this. we cannot set the stage for further destabilization hostage- taking from ours in the form of another debt ceiling crisis. but he was doing that ahead of last night's vote. this was another thing he was...